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138 entries.

john eveleigh from Edinburgh wrote on 11 March 2022 at 10:14 am

Hello JB and Ray,
I spent some time in Nanyuki Kenya ,and during my visits used to hear about some leopard men who were somewhere on Mount Kenya. There was always talk about sending up an armed party to rout them out. Did either of you hear of them? I believe the Leopard Men were part of a Secret Society. I cant remember the name but there was a Hotel there, where if you played Darts you crossed the Equator every time you went to take your darts from the board.
John Eveleigh 42A A Coy

Andy Cobby from Worthing wrote on 6 March 2022 at 8:38 pm

Hi Guys thanks for letting me visit last week and the chat I really enjoyed it and was really impressed with the Centre my only complaint was that it wasnt long enough so i will be sure to return and as promised will be filling in my BOBA application for and posting it off.
Once again guys thanks so much take care

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You are very welcome - we look forward to your return.

Ray Hackworth from River Club Johannesburg South Africa wrote on 6 March 2022 at 9:25 am

Hi JB/JE
There are a great many people who do not take kindly to the UK. Having lived in Botswana/Zambia and South Africa during the Rhodesian bush war, and visiting family in Rhodesia during this period the atrocities that took place were unbelievable. There were thousands of atrocities. One of these took place near Bulawayo where Magabwe 5th brigade who were trained by North Korea dropped some 1600 plus of the opposition into a disused deep mine shaft, and then blew the shaft.
In other incident a group of terrorists who were based in Mozambique attacked the Elim mission station in the Vumba mountains and killed all the 16 white staff and their children.
The Rhodesian special forces (SAS (D Sqn) and the Selous Scouts) went after them and caught some. However a number of them were given sanctuary in the UK when they had fled Rhodesia to save their skins. Some still remain in the UK today. This is a major reason why people are not too happy with the UK and its politics.

john eveleigh from Edinburgh wrote on 23 February 2022 at 10:08 am

JB
It was a forgotten conflict that cost the lives of over 700 troops and yet very little about it exists in the public mind .
I was to a certain amount involved with the two Sergeants. At the time, I was stationed in Camp 21 at the crossroads of the .Haifa -Tel Aviv road with the Natanya- Tulkarm road, and quite near Natanya. The two Sergeants were Intelligence Corp and each had a BSA 500 cc Motor Cycle, and as I was then in the Motor Cycle repair section they came to me for repairs. They had been given priority so if possible I rectified defects straight away.
I took part to a certain extent in the search for them. There were thousands of troops searching the area bounded by the Tel Aviv Road and the Natanya road ,we were there with our vehicles to take suspects to a place of detention for interrogation.
Of course nothing was found and they were eventually hanged on the other side of the Tel Aviv Road ,to that which we had been searching.
There was retaliation but I am not aware if any troops were charged for this .
I was interviewed many years later by an Author who was writing a book on
forgotten conflicts ,or at least the forgotten dead of those conflicts. So I have given a little support to those men by the inclusion of my Chapter.
John Eveleigh 42A A Company

Edwin John Bass from Cologne, Germany wrote on 19 February 2022 at 10:01 pm

Jambo Bwana (42a)John E......
Memories of Egypt - the stink and the filth -- and Palestine with its savagery of Paletsinian versus Palestinian each with a hate for us never fades. I wanted a bit of adventure before I settled down to studying hard and volunteered for Overseas not expecting Paestine.. The definition of the volunteer is: HE FORGOT TO ASK THE QUESTION... so it was I discovered the answer when sent up to Haifa holding a gun and having no ammunition. There were score of wild Scots of the KOSBI regiment who had the same mandare.... We were told it was the way the British army resrocked its armouries which had been emptied by our *friends´ ... It was heartening to know they were our friends who hung two sergeants one of whom was ex-Arborfield Boy..
I thought now, what shall I say if the train stops and several savage friends come shooting at us. OH! I say. Thats not cricket dear chappy! i am frightfully short of Ammo... HELP!!!!!
. Cheers! JB....

john eveleigh from Edinburgh wrote on 18 February 2022 at 12:05 pm

To the Administrator
Sorry about the double entry .I was Typing when everything vanished so started again.
John 42A

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No worries John I guessed somthing like that had happened

john eveleigh from Edinburgh wrote on 18 February 2022 at 9:09 am

Hello JB Jambo
When we moved up from Egypt it was with Lee Enfield Rifles ,but shortly afterwards these were exchanged for Tommy Guns. We liked them but they were not very comfortable to sleep with. At the time we carried weapons at work ,off duty. and slept with them at night. We carried them outside of the Camp when off duty so could go to Haifa and have a few Jars carrying a weapon. Of course this could have led to weapons being stolen ,so the guidance given was, we could fire if in danger of loosing the weapon. At what point this occurred we were never told ,luckily I never had to make the decision. The carrying of weapons like this was due to the attacks that had been made on many off duty troops, in one case an officer who was flogged in public and l then released. Others were not so lucky.
We made another weapon change later and became the owners of Carbines, but not for long , before we received the Sten.
John Eveleigh 42A A C0y

john eveleigh wrote on 18 February 2022 at 8:51 am

JB Jambo
The dreaded Sten. When we came up from Egypt we had Lee Enfield Rifles ,then shortly after we were replaced with Tommy Guns. A lovely weapon with few problems although we had one men who managed to put some rounds through the Guard Room roof when he came back in. At the time we carried weapons at all times At night ,at work and off duty. This included off duty visits to the towns. The only guidance we received was that we could only fire the weapon if we were in danger. Precisely at what point this occurred we were never told of loosing it. Did you wait until your attacker had his ha

Edwin John Bass from Cologne, Germany wrote on 16 February 2022 at 9:02 pm

Hi John E...
Better not get started on Palestine or that dreadful gun called a Sten. I was out on recovery duty when the Sten was introduced to our lads. It SELF-FIRED then when the lecturing sergeant was about to explain about his not being too sure about its safery-catch reliability. I told.Curly -- my buddy -- the Sergeant had done that on purpose but Curly insisted the gun fired itself. Only a flower pot and a window suffered any damage but it was excitement enough.
Cheers JB....44a A Coy.....

john eveleigh from Edinburgh wrote on 16 February 2022 at 10:33 am

Hello JB remember our days in Palestine. I remember having to convert a Bedford i5 Cwt into a hearse at short notice .You probably remember that bodies were not kept for long due to lack of facilities.
We completed the hearse only to receive a call the morning of the funeral, to convert to take two bodies as there had been further killings.
John 42 A A Coy

Edwin John Bass from Cologne, Germany wrote on 15 February 2022 at 9:35 pm

The German government group sent me to Blantyre, Malawi and their council chief sent me to buy a hearse for the people of a Blantyre suburb called Ginnery Corner to buy them a hearse. The natives there were burying their dead by taking the unfortunates in a wheel-barrow to church. I was accompanied by two councillors who were going to buy two limousines for Blantyre Town Hall use. The company in Jo Berg converted a Dodge Pick-Up into a funeral wagon -- at a reasoable cost -- whilst the councullors were arguning with the limousine company about the colours and the music system they could have in their cars,
Somehow the sense of values and colour was lost to those two African Councillors.
Cheers!
JB..

Edwin John Bass from Cologne, Germany wrote on 14 February 2022 at 9:16 pm

My computers difficultiesr are getting worse I was writing about the reason I tell the tale that my visits to Africa were 9 or ten and the whole lot vanished. When my temper has cooled I shall try again --- maybee is it not worth the bother.... Cheers! JB..

Ken Pearson 63C C Coy from Lynemouth Northumberland wrote on 14 February 2022 at 5:02 pm

I will be in the Chepstow area during the summer and would like to visit the Heritage centre . When is it open to former appentices.

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The centre is open Wednesday and Saturday 11am - 3pm. It can be opened by appointment if needed.

Ray Hackworth from River Club Johannesburg South Africa wrote on 14 February 2022 at 3:37 pm

Hi JB this is one of the problems that we have living in Africa. Distances are far more than in Europe. My longest drive has been from Cape Town (South Africa) to Kitwe (Zambia) which is only a short drive from the Congo. I was bringing a new car from the UK to Kitwe and came out on the Windsor Castle. We use to drive a lot in Zambia up to the Angolan border and down to Rhodesia., and up to Tanzania. However when the war started in earnest in Rhodesia (I had my brother in law living in Salisbury (Harare) trips there were curtailed a lot as we had to travel in convoys for safety. to avoid being attacked by terrorists.
The resentment against British troops was very high as well as the British Government.

john eveleigh from Edinburgh wrote on 14 February 2022 at 10:29 am

Greetings JB.
Due no doubt to my age , I had forgotten that in fact had been an Author in the Past .It all happened on my last posting prior to discharge when I was posted to Tech Branch REME at Woolwich .
Our function there was to produce Repair Manuals for New Vehicles being introduced into the Service and we were referred to as Technical Authors. I had one more move after this ,to MEXE, (Military Experimental Establishment) at Christchurch, still Tech Branch ,where we produced Ease of Maintenance reports on Equipment that was being considered for use by the Army. Again we were Technical Authors.
It is quite possible that some of the readers of this page have unknowing read one of these Manual and said what a lot of rubbish, not knowing who was the Author. When you joined the Tech Branch in those days ,and before you were let loose on writing a Manual ,it was emphasised that we should assume you were writing for idiots. This meant we had to ensure every detail was recorded.
I didnt witness it, but having finished a Manual an Author sent it to our Major for Checking . it came back annotated why is this vehicle on the road with its Master Cylinder in a vice. Yes he had forgotten to say remove from the Vice.
Happy Days
John

Edwin John Bass from Cologne, Germany wrote on 13 February 2022 at 7:28 pm

Hi Ray,
Thank you. No, dont bother sending anything. I have a file on it all somewhere among my heap of paperwork that I shall get to sorting -- one of these days.. It was that when I was in Africa 9 or ten times I kept meeting Brits and Europeans that spoke of places just down the road that were often in other countries.... Compared with Britain it is a continent, of course.
Stay cool and Cheers!
John

Martin Gregor from Bristol wrote on 13 February 2022 at 4:55 pm

Hi
Just wondering are there any Old Boys from 72B C Company planning on going to the Reunion this year as its our 50th Anniversary of joining.

Ray Hackworth from River Club Johannesburg South Africa wrote on 13 February 2022 at 9:29 am

Hi JB.. Choma in Zambia is not just round the corner from me. It is some 1505 kms away, a 18/20 hour drive,plus 2 or 3 border posts depending on the way you go. I am not sure if he is still at his crocodile farm in Choma or in Livingstone. I have obtained some information on him, which mentions he is a ex boy soldier; and that he arrived in Northern Rhodesia (Zambia) in 1954 and was a garage mechanic in Lusaka. I can send this information to you about him if you let me know where I can send it to.He has had two books written about him, one by Elizabeth Balneaves Elephant Valley,and his own book Siawinda which was published in 2009 by Safari Press in the USA.

Edwin John Bass from Cologne, Germany wrote on 12 February 2022 at 8:19 pm

Sorry Ray. Many apologies Wrong Ray I guess.
Joe Brooks (44a A Coy) had a large property -- probably three farms in all -- at Choma, Zambia and lots of fishing rigs on the lake nearby. Big Game Hunter and all that sort of thing.... He treated me well during theee weekends he had me there I was working for GTZ (German government organisation)
. At Beachley after every leave Joe had cigarrettes to sell: Woodbines and Players mostly tuppence-halpenny for 5 Woodbines I remember. Quite a business man in his Chep days....

Ray Hackworth from River Club Johannesburg South Africa wrote on 12 February 2022 at 2:47 pm

Hi JB, sorry never heard of him. On my various travels i have meet very few Beachley Old boys. we seem to have moved in different circles.
I, or should I say we, my 2nd wife, (my first wife died of emphysema in 2006 after a long battle being unable to breath due to smoking) go walking with a group called Run walk for life;. which is run by our Medical Aid Group. We met twice a week (Tuesday and Thursday evenings) and walk from 1700 hrs for an hour or so. I walk up to 5 km per session. My wife and the others do above this. I am the only male in a group of 15 . Must have some pleasures in life?????
Because of the long hours we work (up to 60 plus per week), We try and take long weekends in the Bush or up in the mountains. Covid put paid to this but we are hoping to get back to this as restrictions are lifted. Had a good trip to Southern Mozambique (Ponte De Oro)a couple of years ago to attend Julies sons wedding.
He is a plastic surgeon with his Practice in Durban. These days it is dangerous to go there due to the war in the north of the country..
We might even get back to riding horses amongst the game in the various wild life parks we go to. Why dont you try it?

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