Hi Andy!
I apologise for what follows:-
In 42a John Everleigh;s time and mine 44a.... we avoided using Guys because it was an American term everyone hated then -- not thought of us as being English. by Gad! We had fellers & men as what they really were "LADS", "Blokes" and "friends" -- which of course eventually brought in, very American "Buddies".. I know, I know..it is the way of the world -- everything changes but do we really need to change taht much?? . Here i Germany the TV characters uses words we thought VULGA in England way back in them dark days. But no one does anything aboit it although little kids here are using words Like F.... and Sh.. and no one seems to be bothering. Seems as if the Barrack Room has become the world -- ot´r per´haps the barrack room was blamed wringly in the first place. I am all for starting a society which complains when vulgar words are used on TV,
Andy, I am not getting at you just the whole world attutude to the attitude rthat nothing matters any more.
Cheers!

JB.
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